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Post by fatty on Jan 13, 2017 0:18:07 GMT -5
Pretty ho-hum until Mario showed up.
As a jrpg fan I liked the Xenoblade, Fire Emblem and Dragon Quest announcements.
Disappointed in the price, heard rumors about it being $250 and it ends up being $300. What's more concerning is the console's ability to compete with Sony and Microsoft. Was seeing prices for both of them at a little over $200 recently. Well, my friend got an Xbone One Slim, a year of gold and an extra controller for $250 so I'm wondering how people will react to 3 Benjamins for the Switch.
I love the design of the system, though.
Zelda looks beautiful. That might have been the best video game trailer I have seen.
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Post by UsualNoise on Jan 13, 2017 0:18:23 GMT -5
Yeah, but since I preordered Zelda for Wii U I have no incentive to buy the Switch on the launch date.
This presentation took me from ready to preorder to waiting until Mario is released at the end of 2017 (and hopefully a price drop in the mean time). A really poor showing IMO. And this is coming from a video gamer who pretty much ONLY buys Nintendo hardware.
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Post by dschroll on Jan 13, 2017 0:21:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I must confess that presentation was pretty mediocre overall. I'm fine with the $300 price tag given what all it comes with and it's a pretty solid piece of hardware. I will definitely get a pro controller as well. But as oldskool said, I have to wonder what are the launch games? Zelda is the only definitive answer we got on that. Mario we know is not. Splatoon 2 is not. I really thought they would have a clear list of launch games for us.
What a weak ass 3rd party offering. I mean, come on. It was just terrible. I guess we are going to get the same lackluster 3rd party support Nintendo systems are known for these days. I was interested in Skryim until I saw Zelda and now Skyrim is a distant memory. No way am I picking both up at launch since they seem far too similar in terms of play style.
Mario looked amazing. I don't get why nintendo can't seem to launch their hardware with Mario games anymore. It worked so well for them on the NES, SNES, and N64 but they've just failed to do anything similar after that (and no, I don't count Super Mario U on the Wii U).
Other questions that weren't answered: 1) How much memory does this thing have? 2) How much will games cost? 3) What does the online service entail? 4) What about Virtual Console?
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Post by dschroll on Jan 13, 2017 0:26:49 GMT -5
Holy crap. I am looking at Nintendo's site and they have various prices listed. This is ridiculous:
Pro controller: $69.99 MSRP Joycon set: $79.99 MSRP Individual joy con: $49.99 MSRP joy con charging grip: $29.99 MSRP Switch dock set (includes doc, AC adapter, and HDMI cable): $89.99 MSRP
I'm sorry, but those prices are WAY inflated. $70 for a pro controller? Seriously? I'm all for HD rumble, but this is ridiculous.
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Post by dschroll on Jan 13, 2017 0:31:45 GMT -5
Oh, and how ugly are the red/blue joy cons? I cannot imagine many people will be wanting that SKU. I will still try and pre order as I really want Zelda, but man, there's not a lot else enticing me to. I could get Zelda for Wii U, but knowing Nintendo it won't release until later on Wii U. I'm also hearing that Wii U version runs at a slower frame rate.
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Post by dschroll on Jan 13, 2017 0:38:32 GMT -5
Online Service explained...somewhat:
This service lets Nintendo Switch owners enjoy online multiplayer gaming as well as a dedicated smartphone app that connects to your Nintendo Switch system and helps you connect with friends for online play sessions. Check back for more details on the service and its features after the Nintendo Switch system launches.
Available in March (Free trial) Online Play on Nintendo Switch
You’ll be able to play compatible co-op and competitive games online by signing in with your Nintendo Account. Online play will be free for Nintendo Account holders until our paid online service launches in fall 2017.
After the free-trial period, most games will require a paid online service subscription from Nintendo in order to play online.
This service is only for Nintendo Switch. It does not affect Wii U or Nintendo 3DS systems or online play.
Planned for fall 2017
Online lobby and voice chat
Our new dedicated smart device app will connect to Nintendo Switch and let you invite friends to play online, set play appointments, and chat with friends during online matches in compatible games─all from your smart device.
A free, limited version of this app will be available for download in summer 2017.
Monthly game download
Subscribers will get to download and play a Nintendo Entertainment System™ (NES) or Super Nintendo Entertainment System™ (Super NES) game (with newly-added online play) for free for a month.
Exclusive deals
Special offers for subscribers may include discounts on select digital games and content.
Make the most of your Nintendo Switch
The paid service lets you take your gaming up a notch with online multiplayer and exclusive benefits. Standard online features such as system and game updates will be free for all Nintendo Switch users.
To access any of your system’s online services, you’ll need a Nintendo Account. Create one today so you’ll be ready when Nintendo Switch launches.
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Post by UsualNoise on Jan 13, 2017 0:39:22 GMT -5
I commented to my brother this presentation was Nintendo's "jump the shark" moment. I really hope I'm wrong, but I haven't been this pessimistic about Nintendo in a long time.
And yeah, those prices are insane. I was willing to throw my money at this system, but ... no. Just, no. Maybe if prices come down later. Maybe.
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Post by UsualNoise on Jan 13, 2017 0:45:41 GMT -5
Re: online. What? A benefit is a free NES or SNES game FOR A MONTH??? What a ripoff. PS Plus is WAY better than that.
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Post by dschroll on Jan 13, 2017 0:49:39 GMT -5
Full press release:
TOKYO–(BUSINESS WIRE)–Nintendo announced today that the new Nintendo Switch system will launch worldwide on March 3, 2017 at a suggested retail price of $299.99 in the United States.
The system will include the main console, Joy-Con (L) and Joy-Con (R) controllers, a Joy-Con grip (to which two Joy-Con are attached and used as one controller), a set of Joy-Con wrist straps, a Nintendo Switch dock (which holds the main console and connects it to a TV), an HDMI cable and an AC adapter. Two stylish versions of the system will be released: a version with a set of gray Joy-Con, and a version with one neon blue and one neon red Joy-Con. Both versions will be the same price.
“Nintendo Switch is a brand-new kind of home gaming system that offers a wide variety of play modes,” said Nintendo President Tatsumi Kimishima. “We will introduce the world to new experiences made possible by the unique characteristics of the Nintendo Switch hardware and the Joy-Con.”
Nintendo Switch is a breakthrough home video game system. It not only connects to a TV at home, but it also instantly transforms into an on-the-go handheld using its 6.2-inch screen. For the first time, players can enjoy a full home-console experience anytime, anywhere. The screen includes capacitive multi-touch capabilities for compatible games. Battery life can last for more than six hours, but will vary depending on the software and usage conditions. For example, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild can be played for roughly three hours on a single charge. While away from home, Nintendo Switch can be charged by plugging the AC adapter into the console’s USB Type-C connector.
The versatile Joy-Con offer multiple surprising new ways for players to have fun. Two Joy-Con can be used independently in each hand, or together as one game controller when attached to the Joy-Con grip. They can also attach to the main console for use in handheld mode, or be shared with friends to enjoy two-player action in supported games. Each Joy-Con has a full set of buttons and can act as a standalone controller, and each includes an accelerometer and gyro-sensor, making independent left and right motion control possible.
Nintendo Switch also contains a number of built-in features that make it more interactive. The left Joy-Con has a Capture Button that players can press to take instant screenshots of gameplay to share with friends on social media. The right Joy-Con includes an NFC touchpoint for interaction with amiibo figures, as well as an IR Motion Camera that can detect the distance, shape and motion of nearby objects in specially designed games. For example, it can tell how far away a player’s hand is, and even if the hand is forming a rock, paper or scissors shape. Both Joy-Con include advanced HD Rumble, which can provide compatible games with subtle vibrations that are much more realistic than before. The effect is so detailed that a player could, for example, feel the sensation of individual ice cubes colliding inside a glass when shaking a Joy-Con. With HD Rumble players can experience a level of realism not possible through sights and sounds alone.
Nintendo Switch makes it easy for players to stay connected. Up to eight systems can be connected for local wireless play. The player can place the system upright anywhere by using the built-in stand, then easily share Joy-Con for multiplayer fun away from the TV. The system will support online Wi-Fi multiplayer gaming. Nintendo also unveiled a new online subscription service that will begin with a free trial at launch. The service includes a smart-device application available in Summer 2017 that will let users invite friends to play online, set play appointments and chat with one another as they play compatible games. The fully featured paid service will be available in the fall.
Nintendo Switch will be supported by world-class third-party publishers including Activision Publishing Inc., Electronic Arts, Take-Two Interactive, Ubisoft, Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment and major Japanese publishers. Some publishers, such as Bethesda Softworks, are joining Nintendo for the first time. Players can look forward to major franchises on Nintendo Switch such as EA SPORTS FIFA, The Elder Scrolls, NBA 2K, Minecraft and more. Nintendo Switch software will not be region locked.
The unique capabilities of the console and Joy-Con have combined with innovations from past systems to create Nintendo’s most flexible, feature-packed video game system ever. This is demonstrated by the wide variety of unique games that were announced for launch day, this summer and into the 2017 holiday season, from both Nintendo and its third-party partners. From the engrossing open-air experience of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild to the party fun of 1-2-Switch, Nintendo Switch offers something for everyone . Select First-Party Games
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild: Prepare for the biggest Legend of Zelda adventure yet, with an open-air style that breaks new boundaries while honoring the origins of the acclaimed series. Explore a world of unprecedented size and discover more than 100 puzzle-filled Shrines of Trials, plus a wide variety of weapons, outfits and gear. Players won’t want to stop playing, and they won’t have to since Nintendo Switch allows them to continue the adventure anywhere, anytime.
The game is compatible with Zelda 30th Anniversary series amiibo, the Wolf Link amiibo (which will be re-issued as a standalone amiibo on Feb. 3) and the new Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild series amiibo. In addition to the previously announced Link (Rider), Link (Archer) and Guardian amiibo, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild series amiibo will also include new Zelda and Bokoblin amiibo. The amiibo in this series carry a suggested retail price of $15.99, except for the massive Guardian amiibo, which has a suggested retail price of $19.99.
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild will provide players with a landmark Nintendo Switch experience on the system’s launch day in March, and will be available as a standard edition, Special Edition and Master Edition. The Special Edition includes the game, a Nintendo Switch Sheikah Slate Carrying Case, Sheikah Eye Collectible Coin, Relic of Hyrule: Calamity Ganon Tapestry and Weather-Worn Map, and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Sound Selection CD for a suggested retail price of $99.99. The Master Edition includes all of those items plus a Master Sword of Resurrection figure, and has a suggested retail price of $129.99.
1-2-Switch: This is the first Nintendo video game in which players compete in fun activities while staring into each other’s eyes instead of at the TV screen. From Wild West gunslinging to copying each other’s dance moves, the games in 1-2-Switch make creative use of a broad variety of Nintendo Switch features to liven up parties with anyone, anywhere, at any time. 1-2-Switch will be available alongside the Nintendo Switch system on its launch day in March.
ARMS: Featuring a unique multiplayer fighting sport that lets players trade blows using extendable arms, this game includes elements of both boxing and shooting games, plus a new cast of characters. After customizing a character with a variety of arms, the player holds one Joy-Con in each hand and throws left and right punches at the opponent. Characters can jump and dash, and players can bend their punches by twisting their hands as they swing. As players learn the game and improve their skills, they will discover a deeper level of advanced tactics. Players can compete against the computer, against a friend on a split screen using a second set of Joy-Con (sold separately), against worldwide rivals online, or with two Nintendo Switch systems over a local wireless connection. ARMS will be available this Spring.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: With Nintendo Switch, fans can enjoy the definitive version of Mario Kart 8 anywhere, anytime, even with up to eight friends in local wireless multiplayer. All your favorite tracks and characters return from the Wii U version, plus all DLC tracks and characters, and new characters join the roster, too: Inkling Girl and Inkling Boy from Splatoon, as well as King Boo, Dry Bones and Bowser Jr.! Plus, Battle mode has been revamped and includes Balloon Battle and Bob-omb Blast, with new courses such as Urchin Underpass and Battle Stadium, and returning ones like GCN Luigi’s Mansion and SNES Battle Course 1. Players can now carry two items at a time, including new items returning from previous Mario Kart games such as Boo (the item-stealing ghost) and the Feather, which gives players a high jump in Battle mode. Players can even choose to use a new Smart Steering feature, which makes driving and staying on the track easy for novice players and kids, even at 200cc. Play in TV mode in up to 1080p. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe launches in April.
Splatoon 2: Traditional 4-on-4 turf battles return in this full sequel to the original breakout hit game, along with new stages, new fashions and new weapons such as the two-handed Splat Dualies. Players can compete on the TV or on the go. Whether they use the Nintendo Switch Pro Controller (sold separately) or Joy-Con, players can aim their ink using gyro controls. Splatoon 2 supports both local and online multiplayer matches. The game will also support voice chat using the new Nintendo Switch smart device app (a free, limited version of the app will be available this summer), and will add new stages, fashions and weapons after launch, as the original game did. Splatoon 2 is scheduled to launch this summer.
Super Mario Odyssey: This is the first sandbox game that allows Mario to fully explore his world since Super Mario 64 on Nintendo 64 and Super Mario Sunshine on Nintendo GameCube. Mario jumps out of the Mushroom Kingdom and embarks on a journey through mysterious new places and new experiences, such as sailing between worlds aboard an airship and the ability to throw Mario’s cap. Super Mario Odyssey is scheduled to launch during the 2017 holiday season.
Snipperclips – Cut it out, together!: In this creative new kind of Action-Puzzle game, players communicate, cooperate and use their imaginations to solve basic and advanced puzzles by cutting paper characters into new shapes. People can play solo or with a friend in the main game, then bring in a bigger group to solve up to four-player dynamic puzzles or compete in other activities. Snipperclips – Cut it out, together! will release in March exclusively in Nintendo eShop.
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Post by dschroll on Jan 13, 2017 0:54:12 GMT -5
Re: online. What? A benefit is a free NES or SNES game FOR A MONTH??? What a ripoff. PS Plus is WAY better than that. Yep. I don't know if that's just a typo and it's like PS Plus where you have a month to download the game, but you can play it as long as your account remains active. But, if it really is a situation where you get it for the month and then it's gone, then yeah, I won't be signing up for your online service. Ugh...and the Zelda special editions. I just feel like nintendo is just taking advantage of its fans at this point. I really was ready to buy this day 1, and I still might, but other than Zelda there is nothing else that interests me and I'm not willing to spend $70 on a pro controller. I'll just use the grip until the pros are on sale.
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Post by dschroll on Jan 13, 2017 0:56:59 GMT -5
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Post by dschroll on Jan 13, 2017 1:17:09 GMT -5
pre orders up on Best Buy. I snagged a Switch and Zelda. That's all I'm getting.
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Post by dschroll on Jan 13, 2017 1:25:54 GMT -5
More details of Switch coming in:
32 GB of internal memory (seriously?!?) but can be expanded with microSDXC cards Screen is 6.2 inch multi touch capacitive touch screen with 1280 x 720 resolution.
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Post by oldskoolboarder on Jan 13, 2017 1:35:28 GMT -5
pre orders up on Best Buy. I snagged a Switch and Zelda. That's all I'm getting. Same here. Got BB pre-order and used some gift card cash. Realized I'm out of GCU so I ordered Zelda on Amazon for the 20% off. I can't believe that game Arms is $60. That looked like a freebie.
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Post by oldskoolboarder on Jan 13, 2017 1:39:53 GMT -5
Oh, and how ugly are the red/blue joy cons? I cannot imagine many people will be wanting that SKU. I will still try and pre order as I really want Zelda, but man, there's not a lot else enticing me to. I could get Zelda for Wii U, but knowing Nintendo it won't release until later on Wii U. I'm also hearing that Wii U version runs at a slower frame rate. HAHA. I tried ordering that SKU and it was out of stock.
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Post by dschroll on Jan 13, 2017 1:44:44 GMT -5
Really? I don't mind colors and such (loved the purple GC) but I just thought those colors didn't look so hot. Did you try ordering from Best Buy? Also available at Walmart from what I've heard.
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Post by UsualNoise on Jan 13, 2017 1:54:57 GMT -5
My really short take on tonight's info:
Nintendo has tried to recapture the Wii by making a new, different way of playing games. Unfortunately I don't think it's going to work. What they really needed was to nail the software for the system, and besides Zelda there are no must-have games at launch that I could see. Discouragingly, it looks like a repeat of the Wii U launch. The low point for me: Sega's guy comes out and says the equivalent of "we're making games for the Switch!" and ... that's it. Just a pathetic amount of software discussed, and the stuff that WAS discussed (for me) just wasn't very interesting. Sure, "Arms" may be fun, but not as a system seller and certainly not at $60.
I'll be very interested in hearing feedback from you folks with pre-orders in now to see your opinions. I really thought I'd be one of those, but not at this point, and definitely not unless they reveal at least a couple more games that I care about. The Mario game really appeals to me, but with an end-of-year release date (and a Wii U version of Zelda:BOTW already on the way) I have no urgency for purchasing the system.
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Post by reaper on Jan 13, 2017 7:14:23 GMT -5
I watched the first 30 mins and then turned it off and fell asleep because I was so bored and disappointed at that point. I'm sorry but this system sucks. It's underpowered for a home console and too large and pricey for a portable console. Software support blows and online is not competitive. Zelda is coming out for the Wii U. I'll buy it there and try to resist ever buying a Switch. I have young kids so I may eventually break down. But at this point I wish they'd just start making games for mobile, Xbox and PS4. Nintendo likes to try to surprise and delight us with new things but it's now 3 consoles in a row where they have disappointed and frustrated us instead. I thought the Wii U taught them a lesson.
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Post by oldskoolboarder on Jan 13, 2017 13:14:20 GMT -5
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Post by oldskoolboarder on Jan 13, 2017 13:17:00 GMT -5
I'll say it. I'm paying $360 to play the new Zelda.
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